Both main parties are wedded to the globalist dogma -
1- free markets which export our jobs and industries to other countries leaving us unable to make wealth. If we can’t make wealth our workers end up on welfare the state gives them handouts. The welfare budgets balloon.
2 - Mass immigration to destroy our culture and further increase our welfare budgets and destroy our culture and dilute what makes Britain the place it used to be.
3 - Net Zero/climate alarmism is a creation specifically designed to destroy economic growth and thereby destroy sovereign nations prosperity.
Unless a party is willing to confront all of the above and a plan to carry it out Britain is lost and will become a region in a globalist dystopia.
As a Reform member and voter i am hoping so! But I remain to be convinced on the economics Jenrick seems a little bit unsure - I still think that Reform are still to fire themselves up to their full potential - a bit worried that their message is a too radical - and I think the opposite is the case. On the other hand they have successfully moved the debate in the correct direction.
Some don’t think it’s radical enough so it’s one of those perception things I guess. I am unsure about Jenrick too tbh but better informed people than me think getting him was a genius move.
I meant that reform seem to think their message is too radical sometimes - they need to push the envelope a bit - it’s a bit like their not too sure of themselves!
You are reading it wrong. The one thing they need is people to vote for them. Being radical will turn people away. He is playing a very clever game and not misleading anyone but when in they will be a very radical govt. They will get more votes this way than being "too" radical.
That's why Nigel is head of the party and not us and people need to remember we only see what we see. We don't know the half of it.
That's why Lowe is not even getting in the polls.. he is openly radical.
Tories have not really had a good leader since Thatcher and one of my main dislike of Tories is the fact they are quick to turn on the leaders that the voters elected which aways turns into a disaster. Labour has always been a disaster when in government and ended up running the country into the ground which then takes years to sort out.
Tories had every opportunity to tackle issues facing country when in power and didn't.
Labour lied to get in and are doing what they always do on a bigger scale and in a short time destroying the country.
Both have relied on 2 main party system which has now come to end. Labour should never be in power again.
Tories have a lot of work to do, listening to what the public want which I dont see much sign of. Both need to stop bashing Reform with labels, far right etc as in doing so it is attacking the many Reform supporters. Not a bright idea. 2 party system needs breaking and Reform can do that, its time for a different direction which Reform is offering and honest enough to say its not going to be easy .
At the moment Kemi is the most popular political leader. I do like her esp in PMQ’s I won’t vote for them though. If they survive as a party as you say a lot of work to do. I can’t understand people who will vote for them at the GE no more than those who vote Labour.
Some seem to treat parties like football teams support them no matter what. No brain engagement.
Agree, Kemi has upped her game in PMQs but even when it comes to PMQs its between Tories and Labour. Reform are shut out which i do not agree with. Had always voted Tories until Cameron that done it for me after he walked away after the Brexit vote. Have not trusted them since.
Both main parties are wedded to the globalist dogma -
1- free markets which export our jobs and industries to other countries leaving us unable to make wealth. If we can’t make wealth our workers end up on welfare the state gives them handouts. The welfare budgets balloon.
2 - Mass immigration to destroy our culture and further increase our welfare budgets and destroy our culture and dilute what makes Britain the place it used to be.
3 - Net Zero/climate alarmism is a creation specifically designed to destroy economic growth and thereby destroy sovereign nations prosperity.
Unless a party is willing to confront all of the above and a plan to carry it out Britain is lost and will become a region in a globalist dystopia.
Reform has all of those in its policies.
As a Reform member and voter i am hoping so! But I remain to be convinced on the economics Jenrick seems a little bit unsure - I still think that Reform are still to fire themselves up to their full potential - a bit worried that their message is a too radical - and I think the opposite is the case. On the other hand they have successfully moved the debate in the correct direction.
Some don’t think it’s radical enough so it’s one of those perception things I guess. I am unsure about Jenrick too tbh but better informed people than me think getting him was a genius move.
I agree with that have said many times on here Nigel knows what he is doing no more to be said really.
I meant that reform seem to think their message is too radical sometimes - they need to push the envelope a bit - it’s a bit like their not too sure of themselves!
You are reading it wrong. The one thing they need is people to vote for them. Being radical will turn people away. He is playing a very clever game and not misleading anyone but when in they will be a very radical govt. They will get more votes this way than being "too" radical.
That's why Nigel is head of the party and not us and people need to remember we only see what we see. We don't know the half of it.
That's why Lowe is not even getting in the polls.. he is openly radical.
Tories have not really had a good leader since Thatcher and one of my main dislike of Tories is the fact they are quick to turn on the leaders that the voters elected which aways turns into a disaster. Labour has always been a disaster when in government and ended up running the country into the ground which then takes years to sort out.
Tories had every opportunity to tackle issues facing country when in power and didn't.
Labour lied to get in and are doing what they always do on a bigger scale and in a short time destroying the country.
Both have relied on 2 main party system which has now come to end. Labour should never be in power again.
Tories have a lot of work to do, listening to what the public want which I dont see much sign of. Both need to stop bashing Reform with labels, far right etc as in doing so it is attacking the many Reform supporters. Not a bright idea. 2 party system needs breaking and Reform can do that, its time for a different direction which Reform is offering and honest enough to say its not going to be easy .
At the moment Kemi is the most popular political leader. I do like her esp in PMQ’s I won’t vote for them though. If they survive as a party as you say a lot of work to do. I can’t understand people who will vote for them at the GE no more than those who vote Labour.
Some seem to treat parties like football teams support them no matter what. No brain engagement.
Agree, Kemi has upped her game in PMQs but even when it comes to PMQs its between Tories and Labour. Reform are shut out which i do not agree with. Had always voted Tories until Cameron that done it for me after he walked away after the Brexit vote. Have not trusted them since.
oh yes. When he called himself "The Heir of Blair" that was the start of the decline of the Tories.